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Success and Failure and Success

I learned a little something this morning.

Heavy squats and heavy deadlifts on the same day, in the same hour even, was, today, a bad idea. For most, that may seem like common sense. I suppose it does to me too, but I’ve never tried it…never proved it. Oh, I’ve done light one, heavy other before. I’ve even done a moderate 5×5 of both - supersetted even. But heavy both was a bad idea.

I posted yesterday that I intended to set three new PRs today. I succeeded for one, not quite for another, and failed miserably on a third.

Olympic-style, A2G, Back Squats
4x @ 215#
3x @ 225#
2x @ 235#
2x @ 245#
1x @ 250#
1x @ 255# !
2x @ 260# !!

That double 260# was something I absolutely did not expect. The last time I did anything over 250#, I was about 10# heavier than I am now. I was going into this morning thinking I was going to struggle with 250#. I don’t know why, but it all came together for me today. Full deep squat, pause, explode, stand up. It just clicked. Twice.

After that success, I thought my dl today was going to be a breeze…more on that in a moment.

Overhead Press
4x @ 115#
3x @ 120#
2x @ 125#
1x @ 130#

That last one just barely went up. I didn’t quite look like the old Olympic Clean & Pressers of old (lean way back) but it wasn’t strict and it wasn’t pretty. 130# is my current 1RM, so I was content to hit it. I had plans for 135# and 140#, but that just wasn’t going to happen today.

Overhead Press (cont.)
3×3 @ 115#

Here we are. The lift you’ve all been waiting for.

Deadlift (planned)
4x @ 310#
3x @ 320#
2x @ 335#
1x @ 350#
1x @ 355#
1x @ 360#

That would have been respectable. Three-quarters of that would have been respectable.

Deadlift (actual)
4x @ 310# (barely)
0x @ 320# (WTF?)
Walk around a bit
Get some water
More chalk
0x @ 320# (Seriously?!?!)
0x @ 310# (f* it, I’m done.)

There was still plenty of time on the clock, so a substitution was in order.

3x
8x (4x ea. arm) 65# one-arm snatch + TGU (in reverse - down first, then back up)
8x pull up

Every one of my pull ups was an actual, pronated pull up. Also, the first 4/4/3 of each set was chest touching bar.

So, I started the morning successful, and ended strong. The middle was a little rough. I guess one can’t expect everything.

Maybe I’ll try the Squat / DL combo again someday, but not anytime soon. I can rationalize that my squats hindered my deadlift - and it’s probably true.

That doesn’t make it any easier on my ego.

2 Comments

  1. J.B. wrote:

    Let me get this straight, squatted 15 reps over 7 sets, all over 80% of your max, and you wonder why your DL tanked? Hmm I wonder.

    Friday, October 12, 2007 at 12:06 pm | Permalink
  2. ces wrote:

    Ha! Put that way, of course, it makes perfect sense. I think the big mental problem was the dichotomy of:
    1) how I felt
    2) what I actually had left in the tank

    When I was squatting, I FELT like I could lift up a truck.

    However, I actually had enough left for only very light trucks…like Hot Wheels.

    Friday, October 12, 2007 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

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